Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Partial Chat Log discussing Universal Sacred Space

[Lost the first 30-45 minutes in the chat buffer]

Jacob Edwards>> the entries can be at the corners with paths
that lead the center creating a natural seperation between
the areas
Jacob Edwards>> iconography can line the paths
Jason Fanning>> *nods* could have mosaics, paintings, carvings,
etc. along the walls and pillars on the way in, then have
each "hall" be an open space. there'd be enough of a divide
that people could worship without interfering with each other's
ceremonies while still being connected by the free space
Jacob Edwards>> yep
Amanda Duchesne>> wonderful
Darius Bonds>> Ya'll have good ideas
Jason Fanning>> I just have a massive need to make an A so I
get my final GPA up above a 3.0 before I graduate :P
Jacob Edwards>> the inside of the dome can have iconography also
Jacob Edwards>> over the christian area can be something like
the ceiling of the cistine chapel
Jason Fanning>> yeah, could do glass etchings dedicated to each
of the religions, so that the sun would cast shadows along
the inner walls as it traveled over
Jacob Edwards>> the muslum area can have the caligraphy that
is on the one mosque in the text, etc
Darius Bonds>> what language?
Jacob Edwards>> glass etching or stained glass in a glass dome
would be cool
Jason Fanning>> was thinking we could have Peace all over the
walkway floors, in various languages as you're walking in,
giving it a central, unified theme as well
Amanda Duchesne>> why not love as well? Thats a universal theme
throughout religions as well
Jason Fanning>> I'm thinking we orient the mosque portion towards
Mecca as well
Jacob Edwards>> shalom is the hebrew word for peace and is the
hebrew greeting that is many have on welcome mats on their
doorsteop
Jason Fanning>> the hard one with "love" is that most languages
have distinct words for it. English is a bit weird in having
only a few words to describe the variation of what is meant
by "love"
Jacob Edwards>> a similar form of the word shalon also means
peace in arabic
Jason Fanning>> yeah, Shalom, Salaam is the one for Arabic
Jason Fanning>> yepyep
Jacob Edwards>> in hebrew when shalom is said twice in a row
it means eternal or never ending peace
Jason Fanning>> perhaps we could use "Understanding" and "Kindness"
in place of Love? similar message, but a little easier to
communicate
Jason Fanning>> so each plaque/design in the floor would be Peace,
Kindness, and Understanding in most of the commonly used
languages?
Amanda Duchesne>> im agreeable to that
Jacob Edwards>> k
Jason Fanning>> okay, so far we have: a six sided building with
gardens/pathways on the roof, the center of which is covered
in a decorative glass dome, pillars all the way throughout
the assembly, a procession of stairs/monuments on the outside
to represent the pilgrimmage, etchings/iconography lining
the walls that divide the entryway to the common area which
has a large common sculpture/waterfall in it?
Jason Fanning>> I'm sure I'm missing things
Jason Fanning>> steeples/domes/etc covering the five major roof
corners, then possibly the shinto shrine on the sixth?
Jacob Edwards>> cool
Amanda Duchesne>> Located on the top of a hill so as to represent
it looking over the world around it. and landscape the outside
with lush green grass and flowers to evoke peace and serenity
Jason Fanning>> good idea
Amanda Duchesne>> and yes I def like the the shinto shrine on
the 6th
Amanda Duchesne>> So Jason you said you are going to type this
up? You also have sketches?
Jacob Edwards>> perhaps there should be faith specific iconography
on the door that is nearest their area
Jason Fanning>> I have a sketch of the one I was thinking of
earlier. I can draw this one up and scan it tonight when
I get home though, so we'll have images for Prof. Gibney
to look at
Jacob Edwards>> say one entrance leads to a hall that has christianity
on the right and shinto on the left. The entry has double
door with christian iconography on the right door and the
wall to the right of the door
Jason Fanning>> yeah, I agree Jacob, perhaps along the walls
of the entryways that are adjacent to that particular wing
Jacob Edwards>> and shinto iconography on the left door and the
wall to the left of the doorway
Jason Fanning>> that works too
Jason Fanning>> the "general" room could have iconography of
a lot of the "minor" religions (as in how many people are
part of them, not that they're trivial)
Jacob Edwards>> that way you can identify your respective faith's
area from the outside
Jason Fanning>> along the wall to show the diversity
Jason Fanning>> ahhh, I gotcha now. I was thinking inner doors
- outer makes far more sense!
Jacob Edwards>> lol
Jason Fanning>> hmm, apparently the chat box saves only a limited
amount of chat. I got a good bit of it saved though, so we
should be okay if she doesn't get a transcript
Jacob Edwards>> what does the "send url" do?
Jason Fanning>> not sure, it pops up a box that requests a url,
but not sure if it outputs it or what
Jason Fanning>> ah, it seems to be to link everyone to the outside
>_<
Darius Bonds>> I clicked on it, but nothing happened
Jason Fanning>> not a big deal I don't think. didn't get most
of the initial text saved since I didn't realize it was scrolling
it off as we went. I think the partial output should be fine
though to show that we did discuss it pretty thoroughly
Amanda Duchesne>> So if you need any help getting the report
all tied together just let me know. I will log on at least
a couple more times to see if you need anything. But at this
point it seems like we are winding down and I need to make
dinner, havent eaten since 530 this morning.
Jason Fanning>> alright, I think we have a pretty good consensus.
I'll post up what I've written later tonight so everyone
has a chance to look it over and discuss anything I might've
missed in the morning
Jason Fanning>> thanks everyone for coming, this worked out really
well I think :)
Jacob Edwards>> =]
Amanda Duchesne>> Yes thanks everyone, this was a great idea.
Good work.
Jason Fanning>> if anyone has any further input, please feel
free to post it up on the discussion forum. I'll check it
several more times tonight
Amanda Duchesne>> good luck Jason
Jason Fanning>> thanks, gonna pack up and head home before it
starts raining. see y'all in the discussion forums!

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